
Excerpt from episode S01E07 of the "Disruptive Talks" podcast. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any content!Digital transformation is shaping society in unprecedented ways, impacting the way we interact, work and play. This transition towards the digital world, which takes concrete shape through virtual/augmented reality and the concept of metaverse, offers opportunities for growth and access to information, facilitating connection between people regardless of geographical distance. However, widespread adoption of technology brings with it significant challenges.
In the seventh episode of Disruptive Talks, we had the opportunity to immerse ourselves in a conversation that crossed the boundaries between reality and virtual with one of the experts in the field of digital innovation on the Italian market: Fabio Lalli. With over twenty years of experience behind him, Fabio, founder and partner of IQUII and IQUII Sport and creator of MTVRS, led us through the intricacies of the Metaverse, augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR), revealing the their potential and technical and social challenges.
He shared his unique insights, gained through years of experimentation and activity in the tech sector, offering a detailed overview of the emerging trends that are redefining the world of business and society itself. We discussed the challenges and opportunities facing businesses in the current era of digital transformation.
The conversation led us to analyze the comparison between the latest technological solutions, such as Meta Quest 3 And XReal 2, and to understand how these devices shape user experiences within increasingly sophisticated digital worlds. Furthermore, we addressed the important issue of the techno-social duality of the Metaverse: a technology capable of bringing individuals together but, at the same time, creating new forms of isolation.
At the heart of the episode, our dialogue focused on understanding how the Metaverse and various forms of virtual, augmented or mixed reality are shaping an increasingly concrete and pervasive digital future. With this journey into innovation, Disruptive Talks confirms itself as a point of reference for all those who wish to actively participate in the debate on how technology is influencing our present and shaping our tomorrow.
Chapters of the episode and topics covered in the discussion:
00:01:55- Focus – Metaverso, VR/AR and Mixed Reality, Apple Vision, XREAL…: potential and challenges
00:11:00- The discussion with Fabio Lalli
00:15:14- The Discussion: Innovation and Entrepreneurship
00:24:40- The Discussion: the importance of Time to Market
00:30:20- The Discussion: Metaverse, Other Technologies and Artificial Intelligence
00:33:59- The Discussion: Technologies and sociologies – A new industrial revolution?
00:45:23 - The Discussion: Apple Vision - Fabio talks about his experience
00:56:06- The Discussion: 3DOF vs 6DOF
00:57:54- The Discussion: XREAL or META QUEST? The importance of the ecosystem
01:05:15 - The Discussion: informal chat - is it worth buying XREAL AIR?
01:11:09 - The Discussion: techno-social duality of the metaverse and the digitalization of human relationships
01:20:59- The Discussion: how to explain the metaverse to a child?
01:22:57 - The Discussion: book recommendation
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About Fabio Lalli:

Founder | Partner IQUII & IQUII sport (part of Be Group / ENG) with 23 years of experience in key strategic projects, launching new marketing services, driving business transformation, innovating new businesses, defining digital strategy and execution across multiple industries (banking and finance, retail and sports). Advisor for tech companies focused on Retail, NewTech, Sport. Headhunter for Mobile Devs. Currently CEO of ICONIC and founder of MTVRS.
His official site.
His Telegram channel MTVRS, with links, news and insights on
Web3, NFT, DAO, Gaming & Metaverse
Book recommended by Fabio:
- God's machines, by Helga Nowotny.
Connect with Fabio on social media:
LinkedIn / X – ex-Twitter / Facebook / Instagram / Discord / Youtube





